#I need to play Undertale again

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How old do you think Sans and Papyrus are? Is their age different in other universes?

[This turned into a ramble, the short answer is I think Papyrus is somewhere around 18-25, and his brother could be a teenager or old man. In other AU's I've made my own version for, it's the same until I got into the Gemknight AU's. So for most versions of AU's I've made, Papyrus is the younger (Great for angst!) but later (Gravel-type AU's) Papyrus could be the older brother (Also great for angst) ]

The ramble:

I used to think that Papyrus was the younger one but I'm starting to question/doubt that, but it's difficult to tell with all the deceit between those two bastards. The way they're both different levels of liars makes it hard to tell what's true and what's not (I know about the Japanese version where it's heavily implied Papyrus is the younger brother).

I have a theory that sits on the side of "Why are they like this?" and "I'm probably reading this wrong" but I get the impression that they are both playing/acting a part to purposely deceive us. Papyrus acts out depending on the prompts that he's given by his brother, it's happened more than once and I'm very suspicious at it. Is it a prompt game? What would it mean? Is his brother being malicious about it? (doubt it, he's too lazy for that) So am I imagining it? Did they plan this 'game' because it lowered the risk of a murder run? I know Papyrus would agree to a risk like that.. but it wouldn't make sense for his brother to.

If they're playing a game like this, it's possible everything they say around each other is an intentional (or lazy) lie. So I guess unless I learn to read/translate Japanese myself I probably won't be able figure it out and I don't think Toby would restrict important lore like that.. but at the same time I'm not sure. Either way I don't trust what Papyrus pretends to be around his brother.

But back to the main question:

I'm starting to lean on the idea of Papyrus being the older brother, I think it's a fun concept to explore and I'm glad @fluo-skeletons AU's brought that idea into my range and I've started to adjust any new AU's I make into a similar concept/theme because I want to see how different things turn out. (Nothing changes, it's still angst)

I think Papyrus is in his late teens, or early 20's.. maybe 25 at the highest or maybe older than Asgore himself?? I've recently discovered timeline things in Undertale that are making me question everything (I know, some things avoid me when all I do is weird shit like check if there's patterns in Papyrus's bookshelf) so I need to evaluate and line things up to understand the full timeline and what's going on. I don't know how old his brother is and there's no indicator to guess, he could be an old man or an edgy teenager.

A lot of the AU's I started with have Papyrus as the younger brother by a few years, (his brother appears a lot older but that's because he didn't have much growing left to do) and newer AU's I'm changing that around, not that it changes anything between them, it just makes Papyrus's behavior make more sense, which is good for consistency.

[snuffydoo]

Kali meets undertale sans (or undertale Papyrus)

Shenanigans insue

I'M TRYING TO ENVISION HOW THIS WOULD GO DOWN AND LEGIT I DONT KNOW I've seen like- comics and drawings of Jevil and Sans getting along or Papyrus and Jevil getting along so maybe it'd be the same for his son???????????? altho prolly something about Kali just doesn't sit right with sans but he's too lazy to pry forward

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Song of the Day: Leonard Cohen - Suzanne

A fine song and even finer piece of poetry (it began life as a poem, published in 1966 as part of a collection titled Parasites of Heaven), Leonard Cohen's signature Suzanne remains one of the most well-regarded and widely-appreciated popular compositions never to crack the Top 40. Part autobiography, part religious allegory, it seems to mean something profound to almost everyone, even though its real meaning is, I've discovered, a matter of fierce debate. In completing my customary research for this entry, I encountered all sorts of interpretations, various writers peeling away layer upon layer of supposed substance, and honestly, I've never in my life had to wade through such a morass of pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook, while emerging none the wiser.

Maybe the self-anointed intelligentsia are making it more difficult than it needs to be. There’s certainly not a lot of allegorical sub-text to the first and final verses, which actually form a straightforward account of his relationship as a young man with one Suzanne Vaillancourt, née Verdal, a bohemian performance artist and blithe free spirit with whom Cohen became close in his years circulating among the various artistes of the Montreal cultural scene. She was, by all accounts, almost irresistibly alluring, and according to Cohen every man she met fell in love with her. Alas, she was married to a fellow artist, a man so attractive in his own right that apparently, every woman who met him fell in love too, and in his best moments, listening to his better angels, Cohen wasn’t about to do anything to insert himself between the two, even if she’d been amenable, which she wasn’t; he once told an interviewer that as a couple, they were inviolate, you just didn’t intrude into the kind of shared glory that they manifested. Not that he didn’t think about it, of course, c'mon, a guy couldn't help but at least toy with the idea, just in the abstract, but he satisfied himself with an entirely platonic, albeit exquisitely intimate, relationship that never developed into anything untoward. This is from an interview conducted by Kate Saunders of the BBC:

Saunders: The song is about the meeting of spirits. It’s a very intimate lyric, very, very intimate.

Suzanne: This is it.

Saunders: It seems very sad that the spirits moved apart.

Suzanne: Yes, I agree and I believe it’s material forces at hand that do this to many the greatest of lovers (laughs).

Saunders: So would you say in a way, in the spiritual sense, you were great lovers at some level?

Suzanne: Oh yes, yes, I don’t hesitate to speak of this, absolutely. As I say, you can glance at a person and that moment is eternal and it’s the deepest of touches and that’s what we’d shared, Leonard and I, I believe.

It was beautiful as it was, and it was enough. Well, mainly it was enough. As Suzanne remembered later, once when he was visiting Montreal, I saw him briefly in a hotel and it was a very, very wonderful, happy moment because he was on his way to becoming the great success he is. And the moment arose that we could have a moment together intimately, and I declined. Over the years, there don’t seem to have been a lot of women who said no to Cohen. But Suzanne didn't want to spoil their special bond.

So this is entirely based in reality, an honest account of a precious moment set to poetry in which no poetic licence is taken:

Suzanne takes you down to a place by the river You can hear the boats go by, you can spend the night forever And you know that she's half crazy, and that's why you want to be there And she feeds you tea and oranges that come all the way from China And just when you want to tell her that you have no love to give her She gets you on her wavelength, and lets the river answer That you've always been her lover

And you want to travel with her And you want to travel blind And you think you'll maybe trust her For she's touched your perfect body with her mind

Suzanne really did have a place down by the St. Lawrence River, where the two used to meet and watch the ships go by. She really did serve him mandarin oranges and exotic, orange-flavoured tea from somewhere in the far east. The poem is practically a photograph.

Saunders: When you heard the song as opposed to hearing the poem, did you instantly think, that’s me?

Suzanne: Oh yes, definitely. That was me. That is me still, yes...

Saunders: Could you describe one of the typical evenings that you spent with Leonard Cohen at the time the song was written?

Suzanne: Oh yes. I would always light a candle and serve tea and it would be quiet for several minutes, then we would speak. And I would speak about life and poetry and we’d share ideas.

Saunders: So it really was the tea and oranges that are in the song?

Suzanne: Very definitely, very definitely, and the candle, who I named Anastasia, the flame of the candle was Anastasia to me. Don’t ask me why. It just was a spiritual moment that I had with the lighting of the candle. And I may or may not have spoken to Leonard about, you know I did pray to Christ, to Jesus Christ and to St. Joan at the time, and still do.

Saunders: And that was something you shared, both of you?

Suzanne: Yes, and I guess he retained that.

Thus the subsequent lines about Jesus, so moving and in a sense enigmatic, written, as they were, by a Jewish artist, would appear to have everything to do with the deep spirituality of his relationship with Suzanne, Cohen seeming to equate reverence for the divine with his intense artistic and aesthetic appreciation of his saintly Lady of the Harbour. Black-hearted stone-atheist I may be, but I've always been especially touched by this mournful depiction of a Saviour coming to realize, as he suffers on the cross, that his charges can't be saved, not, anyway, until it's too late to make a difference:

And Jesus was a sailor when He walked upon the water And He spent a long time watching from a lonely wooden tower And when He knew for certain only drowning men could see Him He said all men shall be sailors then until the sea shall free them But He himself was broken long before the sky would open Forsaken almost human, He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone

Only drowning men could see him; it's almost a corollary of the old saying that there aren't any atheists in foxholes, contending that there aren't any believers outside of them, either. In Cohen's telling, people only turn to God when they're in extremis. Otherwise, impliedly, they live meaningless, empty lives devoid of understanding, never attaining the olympian perspective afforded by the high plateau upon which he used to commune with lovely, beloved Suzanne, the deep, captivating woman in the Salvation Army hand-me-downs who saw beauty in the mundane, knew how to find the treasures amid the uncollected refuse, and held the mirror through which Cohen saw himself through her eyes.

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Suzanne Verdal

Source: Song of the Day: Leonard Cohen - Suzanne

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Quiz bot reminded me of a certain someone…

[akanemnon]

Vows and rings, or something...

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DEATH BY GLAMOUR INTENSIFIES**

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Funny how I really have no choice in what my brain decides to fixate on. I made peace with the fact that I have a need to rewatch Over the garden wall in one way or another twice a year EVERY YEAR since 2014, bc it's a hella good show, but currently I'm considering going in for my 11th rewatch of Pacific rim and the thing is I thought that this movie was kinda shit the first time I saw it. I love it dearly but how the hell did that happen

[wolfertinger]

https://www.tumblr.com/wolfertinger666/783495628240125952/shes-also-based-on-a-cotswold-sheep-that-have?source=share

There's no way in hell people are saying that's the best depiction of toriel they've ever seen besides because they're jerking off to it. I'm not super into the game but I know enough about it and I wouldn't be able to tell that was toriel at first glance

""Everyone is telling me this is the best depiction of Toriel they've ever seen and they're right because nobody knows this character from one of the most popular games ever like I do... See I made her HOT 🤤 AND I put a wrinkle near her eye and her mouth... What an AGED GILF 😍""

ngl. has he even played/watched a playthrough of, undertale. or is this yet another case, of him drawing popular characters, he knows will garner attention. like luna from hh, while he takes any chance he gets, to shit talk vivsiepop.

[rendoa-blog]

Sigh. @ancha-aus's Sansnautica thingy has me in a... very tight grip.

SO!

I literally pulled out the colored pencils, like 7 Google searches AND an ask for this.

Enjoy!

[starii-lins]

happy 9th birthday undertale you forever altered my brain chemistry

[the-meme-monarch]

maybe one day when all of deltarune is out my bother and i will do a funny playthrough of it (and undertale) where I voice every single character and provide commentary and he doesn’t say anything (he has expressed that he doesn’t want to say anything)

[stateofgraciee]

I watch dan and phil sm as a comfort background kinda thing that whenever I refresh my homepage I'm duped into thinking they've uploaded a new video only to find that it's one they posted 3 months ago that I've watched several times since they posted it. the worst one is defo it takes two just bc it gets my hopes so high only to hit me with crushing disappointment.

[whumperofworlds]

Whump Dialogue

"People like you should be burning in hell."

[nashusglasses]

Just saw a tiktok comment that said Toriel’s motif is in Asgore’s song but Asgore’s motif isn’t in Toriel’s song

[buttercupshands]

I honestly can't believe it took me 7 years

[celestelunisea16]

What would it be like if the couple met each other's ex, Lilith and Dalv or el bailador

Ah, yes... The exes and the ohs~

SOOOOOOO let's see...

So starting with Lilith first, I'm gonna think here.

So Lilith being Lucifer's first and all, I feel like she would be mostly thinking she'd question it immensely... Like she understands the fact Lucifer and Starlo can be compatible, but... huh??? Like she's just either concerned or didn't think Lucifer would stoop to someone like Starlo. Like seriously, he's a farmer. A CORN farmer. In the underground. With a Sheriff persona. A... What do the kids call it these days, a Cosplayer? For a while, I feel like she'd be thinking lowly of Starlo for a while, but then once she sees reason on why Lucifer picked Starlo, she'd become more supportive of him or she'd just leave them be. I only know so little of Lilith besides the fact that she left her own family in hell for a vacation to heaven so I can't fully come up with a reaction besides making an educated guess here. (I feel like she'd probably react in both ways.)

Now with Starlo's exs for ye, you specified that his ex be either Dalv or El Baliador, (personally, I like a different rare pair myself, so you slay pearl ;>) SO I'MMA DO BOTH but in different scenarios!

So I feel like Dalv would have like... a kinda 'I'm okay with this' sorta vibe when meeting Lucifer, but when told it's the King of Hell he's sipping a glass of tea, then immediately spitting it out onto the floor out of surprise. He has to take several moments to make sure he heard that right, but afterwards it's just him regaining composure and asking how they met, as a try to make small talk. (He is trying his best :() Once Lucifer talks with him and they get onto topics Dalv likes to talk about, they get along.

El Baliador, now, to be truthful to you my friend, I feel like would be so hyper it'd match up the energy but at the same time it's so hyper, the first meeting is sorta like, "Oh, bringing fun to see if you can make it less tense than it should be, good idea...?" Which can end up in two ways: A possible friendship! Or painstaking never coming back again failure- I feel like it would really depend on Lucifer's mood. They'd probably get along with the fun part at least if Luci is in a fun mood! :D

(☆~The mother of Cowboy King Shipping writes once again for my Cowboys and Demons while she waits on bedsheets to be dried~☆

Now I go back to animating a Tarabi thing~ qup)

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